What was supposed to have been kind of an in retirement part-time gig for a, for bill is become a full-time gig for both of us. Now. , Nordic walking has become extremely popular and, even though we thought the pandemic would pretty much knock the business out of the water, it's actually done the opposite because the one thing that people can really can keep on doing no matter what is getting outside and walking,
That's great. Now, Esther, I believe you coined the phrase retirement fail.
that's what she calls me.
You want to elaborate just a little bit on that
Well, bill tried to retire four times now. The first time when he retired from the lung association, it lasted about three. And then, uh, he got into, um, doing some consulting and some public speaking, and then he decided to retire again. And then he got into the human resources. And then Nordic walking came along and now he's gone back to work full-time with CARP.
So, it's kind of like a adopting or taking home a little kitten and, to look after it until it finds its forever home, but keeping it yourselves course, uh, Esther's done no better than me. Her idea was to retire from the pesky day job and spend a little bit of her time helping me run Nordic walking.
And, uh, when I went back to work full-time as the chief operating officer for CARP, which is the same as the AARP, that a lot of your listeners will, will know just the Canadian version. So I'm now the senior staff officer there and Esther is operating Nordic walking Nova Scotia. Full-time so she's, she's a retirement fail too.
